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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Carl
Yes, we *definitely* need to integrate the trial period and downgrades asap. It&#039;s coming, though I&#039;m sorry you had to deal with such a hassle as a first impression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carl<br />
Yes, we *definitely* need to integrate the trial period and downgrades asap. It&#8217;s coming, though I&#8217;m sorry you had to deal with such a hassle as a first impression.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrea, you should have an email from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrea, you should have an email from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stumbled upon Passpack today, and while it looks interesting, I just discovered that I can&#039;t even really evaluate it.  I imported my 163 entries from KeePass, and was very happy to see that they all were successfully added to Passpack.  Then I tried to save and, you guessed it, was informed that I had a free account and would have to delete 63 entries in order to save any of them.  Then I went searching and found this blog entry.  I&#039;m rather disappointed to learn that I can&#039;t use Passpack at all at this time, free or otherwise.  Sure, I can add a few entries and play around with them a little, but without my entire set I really can&#039;t truly use and evaluate.  Right now you&#039;ve got a very unfortunate situation where any user at the 100 entry threshold is just stuck.  Going forward you need some kind of a trial period with an unlimited number of passwords.  If I like Passpack after 30 days, I&#039;d probably pay $12/year to use it.  But I&#039;m not going to pay $12 just to try it out.  Regarding the &quot;Pro&quot; features, the ability to save more than 100 entries is something that many users will require in order to use Passpack at all.  However, the other &quot;Pro&quot; features would likely never be used by many of those users.  Recognizing this, you should have one low price just for more entries, and a higher price for the other &quot;Pro&quot; features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled upon Passpack today, and while it looks interesting, I just discovered that I can&#8217;t even really evaluate it.  I imported my 163 entries from KeePass, and was very happy to see that they all were successfully added to Passpack.  Then I tried to save and, you guessed it, was informed that I had a free account and would have to delete 63 entries in order to save any of them.  Then I went searching and found this blog entry.  I&#8217;m rather disappointed to learn that I can&#8217;t use Passpack at all at this time, free or otherwise.  Sure, I can add a few entries and play around with them a little, but without my entire set I really can&#8217;t truly use and evaluate.  Right now you&#8217;ve got a very unfortunate situation where any user at the 100 entry threshold is just stuck.  Going forward you need some kind of a trial period with an unlimited number of passwords.  If I like Passpack after 30 days, I&#8217;d probably pay $12/year to use it.  But I&#8217;m not going to pay $12 just to try it out.  Regarding the &#8220;Pro&#8221; features, the ability to save more than 100 entries is something that many users will require in order to use Passpack at all.  However, the other &#8220;Pro&#8221; features would likely never be used by many of those users.  Recognizing this, you should have one low price just for more entries, and a higher price for the other &#8220;Pro&#8221; features.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre Moreno</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre Moreno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it is now November 2nd.

I have been contributing to the beta testing a bit I guess, but have not broken the 100 password limit until today. However, it seems now that I am in a bit of a limbo. The earliest adopters who managed to break the 100 password limit before October 16th were grandfathered in (as they should be) but the rest of the Passpack userbase appears to have been prohibited from breaking the 100 password limit for any reason. As far as I can tell, THERE IS NO WAY TO UPGRADE NOW, PAID OR NOT! Does an upgrade at this point, before the actual paid rollout, require manual intervention from the Passpack staff? If so, isn&#039;t something more graceful in terms of business process in order simply to avoid frustrating the userbase?

Perhaps, regardless of the current list of Free-for-now accounts permanently upgraded to Pro accounts, all accounts that have initiated an original bug report (or initiated an original feature request that was not previously planned, but was chosen for implementation) and have done so PRIOR to October 16th should also be permanently upgraded to Pro accounts.

In addition, to prevent user frustration and rapid migration to other password management alternatives, the Free-for-now system should be reinstated, but with an upgrade dialog for non-grandfathered accounts, notifying the user that they may upgrade Free-for-now, but on the day the payment system is implemented, entries created after 100 will be saveable, but not re-viewable. They will be given the opportunity to:

1) Pay for an upgrade.

2) Sync all entries (and move (sync and delete) entries in excess of a chosen 100) to Passpack Offline or Passpack Desktop.

3) Backup &amp; save/email all entries (and/or move (backup &amp; save/email and delete) entries to a local disk and/or email account using Passpack Backup format.

4) Export/print all entries (and/or move (export/print and delete) entries to another password manager using CSV, TSV, HTML, XML, etc., or to the users printer :)

This engine will have to be developed anyway as a portion of the userbase will pay for the upgrade for a time and then fail to renew. Their accounts will need to be downgraded to Free accounts using substantially the same protocol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it is now November 2nd.</p>
<p>I have been contributing to the beta testing a bit I guess, but have not broken the 100 password limit until today. However, it seems now that I am in a bit of a limbo. The earliest adopters who managed to break the 100 password limit before October 16th were grandfathered in (as they should be) but the rest of the Passpack userbase appears to have been prohibited from breaking the 100 password limit for any reason. As far as I can tell, THERE IS NO WAY TO UPGRADE NOW, PAID OR NOT! Does an upgrade at this point, before the actual paid rollout, require manual intervention from the Passpack staff? If so, isn&#8217;t something more graceful in terms of business process in order simply to avoid frustrating the userbase?</p>
<p>Perhaps, regardless of the current list of Free-for-now accounts permanently upgraded to Pro accounts, all accounts that have initiated an original bug report (or initiated an original feature request that was not previously planned, but was chosen for implementation) and have done so PRIOR to October 16th should also be permanently upgraded to Pro accounts.</p>
<p>In addition, to prevent user frustration and rapid migration to other password management alternatives, the Free-for-now system should be reinstated, but with an upgrade dialog for non-grandfathered accounts, notifying the user that they may upgrade Free-for-now, but on the day the payment system is implemented, entries created after 100 will be saveable, but not re-viewable. They will be given the opportunity to:</p>
<p>1) Pay for an upgrade.</p>
<p>2) Sync all entries (and move (sync and delete) entries in excess of a chosen 100) to Passpack Offline or Passpack Desktop.</p>
<p>3) Backup &amp; save/email all entries (and/or move (backup &amp; save/email and delete) entries to a local disk and/or email account using Passpack Backup format.</p>
<p>4) Export/print all entries (and/or move (export/print and delete) entries to another password manager using CSV, TSV, HTML, XML, etc., or to the users printer :)</p>
<p>This engine will have to be developed anyway as a portion of the userbase will pay for the upgrade for a time and then fail to renew. Their accounts will need to be downgraded to Free accounts using substantially the same protocol.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t sweat it, Tara.

I&#039;m disappointed not to receive that particular free upgrade for the reasons I expressed, but Passpack has become so helpful for me I can still spring for the &#8364;10 per annum when I reach 100 passwords.

Thanks for replying personally and I accept your arguably unnecessary apology.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;whilst &#039;paid for&#039; customers can&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That would be a great enhancement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t sweat it, Tara.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m disappointed not to receive that particular free upgrade for the reasons I expressed, but Passpack has become so helpful for me I can still spring for the &#8364;10 per annum when I reach 100 passwords.</p>
<p>Thanks for replying personally and I accept your arguably unnecessary apology.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;whilst &#8216;paid for&#8217; customers can&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That would be a great enhancement.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul, Yes. That&#039;s what that means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, Yes. That&#8217;s what that means.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Reed</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tara, you mention above about the benefits of the Pro package, in particular - &#039;Less Restrictions&#039;. By hovering over the link, the message &#039;Financial Data Restrictions on Free accounts&#039; is displayed.
Following the link to the terms &amp; conditions doesn&#039;t really explain what this means (yet).
Does this mean that users with &#039;free&#039; accounts will not be able to store financial and banking related passwords, whilst &#039;paid for&#039; customers can?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tara, you mention above about the benefits of the Pro package, in particular &#8211; &#8216;Less Restrictions&#8217;. By hovering over the link, the message &#8216;Financial Data Restrictions on Free accounts&#8217; is displayed.<br />
Following the link to the terms &amp; conditions doesn&#8217;t really explain what this means (yet).<br />
Does this mean that users with &#8216;free&#8217; accounts will not be able to store financial and banking related passwords, whilst &#8216;paid for&#8217; customers can?</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christoph
Wow. I&#039;m the first one to admit when I&#039;m wrong. By no means were we trying to create a second class Passpack citizen (hair standing up on the back of my neck at the thought). But I &lt;i&gt;definitely&lt;/i&gt; tanked on communicating what I thought was a little bit of good news.

Just like I mentioned above with the beta testers - I was clearly bringing my own personal bias in here. And that being: Early adopters would have accumulated tons of passwords.

From these comments, that&#039;s completely off the mark and I can&#039;t but apologize for letting you down. I hope you&#039;ll forgive an honest mistake. On my part - I promise to learn from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christoph<br />
Wow. I&#8217;m the first one to admit when I&#8217;m wrong. By no means were we trying to create a second class Passpack citizen (hair standing up on the back of my neck at the thought). But I <i>definitely</i> tanked on communicating what I thought was a little bit of good news.</p>
<p>Just like I mentioned above with the beta testers &#8211; I was clearly bringing my own personal bias in here. And that being: Early adopters would have accumulated tons of passwords.</p>
<p>From these comments, that&#8217;s completely off the mark and I can&#8217;t but apologize for letting you down. I hope you&#8217;ll forgive an honest mistake. On my part &#8211; I promise to learn from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-755</link>
		<dc:creator>Christoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re doing a fantastic job with Passpack now that it&#039;s out of beta. It&#039;s getting more and more powerful. It&#039;s being widely adopted by major players.

I think Paul&#039;s got a point.

Some of us have contributed to Passpack, emailed you with suggestions, recommended Passpack to users on blogs.

I plead guilty to all of the above.

But we never used the &quot;free for now&quot; service because we didn&#039;t have over 100 passwords yet.

I&#039;m not sure why only those who signed up for the free for now service whether they needed it or not are the only ones &quot;rewarded&quot;.

It&#039;s your call, but I&#039;d be lying if I said it didn&#039;t leave a bit of a bad feeling. It&#039;s not just the 10 euros per annum, it&#039;s also feeling like a second class Passpack citizen because we didn&#039;t sign up for more than we needed, free.

That said, what we do get for free is excellent. Even though I feel let down by being put in a real, but lower, gratitude category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re doing a fantastic job with Passpack now that it&#8217;s out of beta. It&#8217;s getting more and more powerful. It&#8217;s being widely adopted by major players.</p>
<p>I think Paul&#8217;s got a point.</p>
<p>Some of us have contributed to Passpack, emailed you with suggestions, recommended Passpack to users on blogs.</p>
<p>I plead guilty to all of the above.</p>
<p>But we never used the &#8220;free for now&#8221; service because we didn&#8217;t have over 100 passwords yet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why only those who signed up for the free for now service whether they needed it or not are the only ones &#8220;rewarded&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your call, but I&#8217;d be lying if I said it didn&#8217;t leave a bit of a bad feeling. It&#8217;s not just the 10 euros per annum, it&#8217;s also feeling like a second class Passpack citizen because we didn&#8217;t sign up for more than we needed, free.</p>
<p>That said, what we do get for free is excellent. Even though I feel let down by being put in a real, but lower, gratitude category.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://blog.passpack.com/2008/10/getting-ready-for-version-10/comment-page-1/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Levi :) It&#039;s coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Levi :) It&#8217;s coming.</p>
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