Comments on: Get Upgraded Free (for now) http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/ Passpack keeps your logins safe, organized and available 24/7. You can send 100% private messages to people you trust. Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:51:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/ hourly 1 By: Tara http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1161 Tara Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:18:56 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1161 Hi Paul, Yes, I also think Guillermo struck an important chord. We are giving this some thought, but it's in the very early brainstorming phase, a larval state if you will. I haven't the slightest idea if/when we'll proceed - but yes, very interesting (and needed!). Thanks for voting up the idea, Tara Hi Paul,
Yes, I also think Guillermo struck an important chord. We are giving this some thought, but it’s in the very early brainstorming phase, a larval state if you will. I haven’t the slightest idea if/when we’ll proceed – but yes, very interesting (and needed!).

Thanks for voting up the idea,
Tara

]]> By: Paul Reed http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1162 Paul Reed Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:21:06 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1162 Dead man's switch? This is something which worries most people (over a certain age!) - me included. It is a big worry that if something should befall me, how would my family manage all the online stuff that I have set up over the years, not knowing the passwords, or where my interest remain? I think that Guillermo has hit on a very underlying concern, which has quietly crept up on today's society, and his solution is worthy of very serious consideration. What other products in the market have currently addressed this concern? (None!) Dead man’s switch?
This is something which worries most people (over a certain age!) – me included.
It is a big worry that if something should befall me, how would my family manage all the online stuff that I have set up over the years, not knowing the passwords, or where my interest remain?
I think that Guillermo has hit on a very underlying concern, which has quietly crept up on today’s society, and his solution is worthy of very serious consideration.
What other products in the market have currently addressed this concern? (None!)

]]> By: Tara http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1166 Tara Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:18:14 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1166 @Guillermo Great ideas. Thanks. Like I said, it's on the list now of possible future features, so all the input you can give us on how you'd expect it to work is very useful. Cheers! Tara @Guillermo
Great ideas. Thanks. Like I said, it’s on the list now of possible future features, so all the input you can give us on how you’d expect it to work is very useful.

Cheers!
Tara

]]> By: Guillermo http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1165 Guillermo Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:42:36 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1165 printing and saving in a vault is not practical for 2 reasons...i live in a different continent than the rest of my family....and my passwords a changed constantly and i am adding new sites continuosly. Right now I solve it by emailing the roboform files to a couple of members of my family about once every month or two...but they dont know how to install it...i leave instructions but i know it would be complicated if need be it. A dead man switch solution using technology would work better...something like a combination between two things 1) if the remaining family member requests access you ask him a question only that person would have know (like password retrieval systems) 2) you try to contact the account owner through a couple of methods (maybe email and sms) and you contact the owner continuously for a few days (determined by the owner)...the messages include a STOP access code...if the member is "up and running" he cancels the access request by inserting the code..if he doesnt respond after X time...acess is opened to the family member that requested it. (they have to had had the unpacking key beforehand...but not the site key).. something like this...you have innovative solutions with your product, you can probably find a way to solve this too in a way that is simple and legal. thanks for you reply. -g printing and saving in a vault is not practical for 2 reasons…i live in a different continent than the rest of my family….and my passwords a changed constantly and i am adding new sites continuosly. Right now I solve it by emailing the roboform files to a couple of members of my family about once every month or two…but they dont know how to install it…i leave instructions but i know it would be complicated if need be it.
A dead man switch solution using technology would work better…something like a combination between two things
1) if the remaining family member requests access you ask him a question only that person would have know (like password retrieval systems)
2) you try to contact the account owner through a couple of methods (maybe email and sms) and you contact the owner continuously for a few days (determined by the owner)…the messages include a STOP access code…if the member is “up and running” he cancels the access request by inserting the code..if he doesnt respond after X time…acess is opened to the family member that requested it. (they have to had had the unpacking key beforehand…but not the site key)..

something like this…you have innovative solutions with your product, you can probably find a way to solve this too in a way that is simple and legal.

thanks for you reply.
-g

]]> By: Tara http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1164 Tara Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:20:27 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1164 Hi Guillermo, Honestly I've never thought of “dead man switch” - interesting. I'll add it to the suggested features list here and talk about it with the developers. In the meantime, you could try and print out a copy of your credentials (Account > Print Credentials) and keep it stored with your will or in a safe deposit box if you have one. Thanks for the suggestion! Tara Hi Guillermo,
Honestly I’ve never thought of “dead man switch” – interesting. I’ll add it to the suggested features list here and talk about it with the developers.

In the meantime, you could try and print out a copy of your credentials (Account > Print Credentials) and keep it stored with your will or in a safe deposit box if you have one.

Thanks for the suggestion!
Tara

]]> By: Guillermo http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1163 Guillermo Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:10:15 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1163 Are there any plans for a "dead man switch"? A way to share my account only if something happens to me? I have absolutely all my banking, communication, work, etc information online...all in sites with passwords. i take care of everything so all is well...but if something did happen to me I would want somebody in my family to have access to all this information..but just in that case....any ideas for a feature that could take care of this safely? That and more space would be what I would be willing to pay for. I currently user roboform...its paid for and has lasted several years, so its cheap...but its local...i dont like the complexity that involves backing it up (not for me...for the dead man switch sitation). anyway...thats my question. thanks, -guillermo Are there any plans for a “dead man switch”? A way to share my account only if something happens to me? I have absolutely all my banking, communication, work, etc information online…all in sites with passwords. i take care of everything so all is well…but if something did happen to me I would want somebody in my family to have access to all this information..but just in that case….any ideas for a feature that could take care of this safely?
That and more space would be what I would be willing to pay for. I currently user roboform…its paid for and has lasted several years, so its cheap…but its local…i dont like the complexity that involves backing it up (not for me…for the dead man switch sitation).
anyway…thats my question.
thanks,
-guillermo

]]> By: Tara http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1160 Tara Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:36:03 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1160 @Jack R. While I can understand your concerns, I have to draw a hard line here: Passpack has NO plans of ignoring our free users. Actually, <a href="http://passpack.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/passpacks-profit-model/" rel="nofollow">we expect them to make up 97% of our userbase</a> -- no company in their right mind would ignore 97% of their users. Thats our business model. <a href="http://passpack.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/passpack-is-growing-with-the-help-of-zmv/" rel="nofollow">We've recently been funded based on that model</a> and trust me - my investors wouldn't the rules getting changed post-investment. We're in this for the long haul. Running a high security business like Passpack requires income. We don't plan on milking that out of anyone, rather we prefer to earn it by offering specific things to specific people via (optional) paid packages. @Jack R.
While I can understand your concerns, I have to draw a hard line here:

Passpack has NO plans of ignoring our free users. Actually, we expect them to make up 97% of our userbase — no company in their right mind would ignore 97% of their users.

Thats our business model. We’ve recently been funded based on that model and trust me – my investors wouldn’t the rules getting changed post-investment. We’re in this for the long haul.

Running a high security business like Passpack requires income. We don’t plan on milking that out of anyone, rather we prefer to earn it by offering specific things to specific people via (optional) paid packages.

]]> By: Jack R. http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1159 Jack R. Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:12:21 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1159 I hate when this happens to companies; they start out well, with excellent ideas. As the software gets more popular, then they start charging, then they start adding more and more paid features (ignoring the free users), then they become entirely paid, with a "30 day free trial". By then, the company is bought by a multinational and the service or software becomes not a product designed to help the population, but instead a means to make money. Don't believe me? Take Skype, CoverFlow, and Hotmail as an example. I was starting to get hopeful with Passpack... I hate when this happens to companies; they start out well, with excellent ideas. As the software gets more popular, then they start charging, then they start adding more and more paid features (ignoring the free users), then they become entirely paid, with a “30 day free trial”.

By then, the company is bought by a multinational and the service or software becomes not a product designed to help the population, but instead a means to make money.

Don’t believe me? Take Skype, CoverFlow, and Hotmail as an example.

I was starting to get hopeful with Passpack…

]]> By: Tara http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1155 Tara Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:14:19 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1155 @Tener We'll keep it as low as possible, but our prices are going to have to be in Euro - the US Dollar price will fluctuate depending on the exchange rate... which just keeps going down. We're looking at an introductory price of 10 euros per year. A few months ago that was 12/13 dollars, now it's 15. We're doing the best we can. Cheers! @Tener

We’ll keep it as low as possible, but our prices are going to have to be in Euro – the US Dollar price will fluctuate depending on the exchange rate… which just keeps going down.

We’re looking at an introductory price of 10 euros per year. A few months ago that was 12/13 dollars, now it’s 15.

We’re doing the best we can. Cheers!

]]> By: Tener http://blog.passpack.com/2007/11/get-upgraded-free-for-now/comment-page-1/#comment-1150 Tener Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:57:15 +0000 http://passpack.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/get-upgraded-free-for-now/#comment-1150 I would only pay 10 dls a year for the password manager service. TOPS. I am sure that many many others feel the same way about it. Please keep it low:) I would only pay 10 dls a year for the password manager service. TOPS.

I am sure that many many others feel the same way about it.

Please keep it low:)

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